it's the most underrated politician in washington is joe biden. this guy methodically, by the way, is preparing for a 2016 run. you don't happen to have the governor over to your residence in order for a weekend ceremony in the inaugural weekend. is not just by happen stance. you don't go to the iowa state dinner that is held here in washington over the weekend by accident. i think there is a sense of particularly in biden's world, a separate shock if you will from the president's political shock. he is looking at the he played. he is going to continue to play the back slapper role with congress. that's not the president. he hired joe biden to slap the backs of congress. that's not what the president wanted to do. i think biden is seeing it as an opportunity to build his own political resume for four years from now. this is happening and it's active and i think people in the city of new york under estimate joe biden. >> we never talk much about it but the obama campaign and obama for america was converted to organizing for action. my question memb